Cam Dyno comparisons

Written and prepared by Jim Weise

 

 

 

Tests performed by:

Scotty Guadagno, at PeeGee Performance (cam tests)

 

Camshafts Tested:

TA Performance

 

Cam

 

Lift w/ stock

Rocker arms

 

Duration at .050

 

Lobe center

 

Stock

Int/ Ex

.406/441

Int/ Ex

210/226

 

113*

Stocker Shootout (TA 288-96H)

.506/.503

230/245

116*

TA Street Intimidator (TA 290-94H)

.474/488

226/235

112*

TA Hemi Destroyer (TA 298H)

.500/.500

241/241

112*

TA Street Eliminator (TA 413)

.500/.500

234/244

113*

TA Street Dominator (TA 290-08H)

.508/.503

238/248

112*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Straightline Performance

 

Lift - stock rockers

Duration @ .050

Lobe center separation

Fast ramp street cam

.501/516

226/238

113*

GSCA/Lunati

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pop Mech cam

.506/.505

230/245

116*

Hemi Killer

.500/.500

241/241

112*

Hemi Killer

.500/.500

241/241

110*

238/248

.508/.503

238/248

112*

Engine Information

  The engine tested is  good example of the Buick Performance engines that are being built today.  This engine is similar to what is between the fenders of many of our cars. So this info applies to you, the average Buick enthusiast.  These are not "one off" test engines.

 

                                                          Cam test engine

462 cid

1972 block

9.6-1 comp

Speed Pro Pistons

Plasma-moly piston rings

Stock crank and con rods

.002/.002 clearance

Modified oil system w/ stock pan

’72 Stage 1 heads with gasket match and bowl work

750 holley and Q- jet, 800 cfm

Stock, B4B, and SP-1 intakes

"shorty" and full length 2" headers

Various camshafts

Pump premo fuel- 92 octane

 

Engine built for testing by Scotty Guadagno, PEE GEE Performance, NYC

 

Purpose of the Testing

  To put it simply, we just wanted to know, for sure, how these products worked. And how they compare with each other, in the same motor, on the same dyno, run buy the same guy. The cam test had been on the "to do" list for TA Performance, prior to the introduction of their updated cam lines. As Mike told me " I just want to be absolutely sure that all of our products perform as advertised". This is rare among the Buick Specialty Manufacturers, calling up your favorite cam grinder and ordering a cam to sell is no big deal. But actually testing each cam is another thing altogether. Spurred by the recent debates over camshaft profiles, Scotty Guadagno was willing to spend hours on his dyno, testing all these cams. A big thanks goes out to Scotty, his work continues to further the development of Hi Performance Buick engines, and the combination of Scotty and Mike are responsible for a good deal of the performance parts we all enjoy today.

    Scotty ran over 40 dyno pulls on the cam test.

  Each combo was tested repeatedly, and the average, not the best, of each combo was tabulated and these are the figures that are reported here.

    The results are reported with no bias, if a non-TA product did well, I say so. If a TA product is better suited for a different application, then that is reported. Fast ramp cams; lifter failure (aka "Crash") are discussed in these pages.

  Along with tons of good info, dyno tested power figures, and general observations regarding various parts.

  On a personal note, I sure hope this puts to rest the whole controversy regarding my experiences with GSCA Popular Mechanics Cam. This issue, and the power levels from this  cam, and an identical copy, with standard hydraulic lobe profiles, is discussed and the data is here, for all to see. Scotty really wanted to do this test, due to the fact he said that he Wanted to solve the problem that he helped create, 10 years ago.

 

 
 
 
 
 
 Table of contents

Why Degree your cam?

Stock Baseline
 
          Baseline test of this engine with a stock cam.
 
TA Street Intimidator vs. Straightline Performance 226/235 camshafts

In this test we compare a the smaller TA cam, with a popular fast ramp cam.. interesting results. 

TA Stocker Shootout vs. GSCA "Popular Mechanics" camshafts

Direct comparison between these two identical cams, only lobe profile different between the two. 

TA Hemi Destroyer vs. GSCA Hemi Killer

Go Mopar Hunting!! -- Another look at ramp speed effects. 

TA Street Dominator vs. Lunati 238/248

Identical cam specs, once again different ramp speeds.

TA 413

          Single cam test, of this very popular camshaft.

     

 

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